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Thanks in advance.]]>
Thanks in advance.]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=41 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:06:30 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=41
So I put in on and installed it. Sure enough, it works with my mouse now. On to the scripting then.

While there are lots of example scripts, they all assume you want to change timings or keys. That is nice, but I still feel there is vital data missing. Let me explain.

I want to use a shift level 1. Ok, I set it up. Then on shift one, I want left mouse to send 'g' keystroke. Ok, simple to do using IDI config. But now I want to do it in macro. Ok, seems to be no problem initially. So you use this


Code:
THREAD Profile
VAR PressTime

Start:    
        // set or reset variable to 0
    PressTime = 0

Continue:
    // for this, wait until desired button is pressed
    WaitForButton(Button, ButtonMask)
        // set variable to current time
    PressTime = CurrentTimeMs
        // show that button has been pressed
    TypeText("Pressed\r",16)
    // if button is pressed wait 5000ms for release
    DO
        // delay for 10 while waiting to see if button released
        DelayForMs(10)
           // compare start time to current time
           // if over 5000 send text and go back to beginning
        IF CurrentTimeMs > PressTime + 5000 THEN
                TypeText("Time exceeded 5000\r",16)
                GOTO Start
        FI
        
    WHILE ((GetButtonState & ButtonMask) == Button)
        // the button was released after 5000 ms, send message
    TypeText("Released\r",16)
        // go back to beginning, reset variable to 0 and wait for button press
    GOTO Start

END


So you see in simple commenting how much easier it could be to understand. This is a pretty simple example, as it only uses IF and Do/While statements to loop and check values.

However, the part I find is lacking is the understanding of just what is happening with the GetButtonState() function. I know it is being BITAND'd with ButtonMask. But this is so atypical of most scripting languages. What does GetButtonState return? How do you use it? The manual is no help really, it actually is more confusing.

Let me explain.

One would think it would work like this

var = GetButtonState() // this should be the combined value of all buttons??

IF var == 5 THEN // 5 could be button 1 & 3 are down

It seems you could also do this
IF GetButtonState(1,1) THEN // this should be button 1 is down, and return should be true

I don't really see explained anywhere these constants Button and ButtonMask. What are thier values? Where can you use them?

So you have these common statments.
WaitForButton(Button,ButtonMask)
this one, I assume is waiting for Button which is what the IDI config set for this button? And button mask is the pressed state?

But then this is thrown in.
((GetButtonState & ButtonMask) == Button)
You are using GetButtonState without the braces (). This is not declared as legal anywhere. And what is ButtonMask? Is it a function ever, like ButtonMask()? and the == Button ?? What is Button? Where does it derive it's value?

So I was trying something that should be simple. If button 1 is pressed, wait for 500ms, and if within that time button 2 is pressed, send XYZ, else if 500ms goes by send ABC. Simple enough.

Looking at the .pdf, it would seem that since I am using a shift, that the following are the button values and mask values

button 1 value 1, mask of 'pressed' 1 (these are not hex, is it restricted to hex?)
button 2 value 2, mask of 'pressed' 2
button 5 value 16, mask of 'pressed' 16 (this is the shift button)

From what I am reading, the GetButtonState() should return the state of all buttons pressed, and not buttons not pressed. So the total would be 19 for button and 19 for mask which should be 38. If the docs are correct, then GetButtonState() should return 38. Or, would it be that GetButtonState(19,19) should = TRUE if buttons 1,2 & 5 are pressed.

That did not work. I then tried IF ((GetButtonState & ButtonMask) == 38) THEN, but that did not work either.

So, how about some more advanced scripts utilizing these functions and values in ways that show thier use, with comments that explicitly describe what is happening.

I should state that I have an early excel spreadsheet with stuff in it that might not be in the .pdf, I have not checked.

Thanks for the progress so far. Looking better than it was for sure.

MrWoo]]>
So I put in on and installed it. Sure enough, it works with my mouse now. On to the scripting then.

While there are lots of example scripts, they all assume you want to change timings or keys. That is nice, but I still feel there is vital data missing. Let me explain.

I want to use a shift level 1. Ok, I set it up. Then on shift one, I want left mouse to send 'g' keystroke. Ok, simple to do using IDI config. But now I want to do it in macro. Ok, seems to be no problem initially. So you use this


Code:
THREAD Profile
VAR PressTime

Start:    
        // set or reset variable to 0
    PressTime = 0

Continue:
    // for this, wait until desired button is pressed
    WaitForButton(Button, ButtonMask)
        // set variable to current time
    PressTime = CurrentTimeMs
        // show that button has been pressed
    TypeText("Pressed\r",16)
    // if button is pressed wait 5000ms for release
    DO
        // delay for 10 while waiting to see if button released
        DelayForMs(10)
           // compare start time to current time
           // if over 5000 send text and go back to beginning
        IF CurrentTimeMs > PressTime + 5000 THEN
                TypeText("Time exceeded 5000\r",16)
                GOTO Start
        FI
        
    WHILE ((GetButtonState & ButtonMask) == Button)
        // the button was released after 5000 ms, send message
    TypeText("Released\r",16)
        // go back to beginning, reset variable to 0 and wait for button press
    GOTO Start

END


So you see in simple commenting how much easier it could be to understand. This is a pretty simple example, as it only uses IF and Do/While statements to loop and check values.

However, the part I find is lacking is the understanding of just what is happening with the GetButtonState() function. I know it is being BITAND'd with ButtonMask. But this is so atypical of most scripting languages. What does GetButtonState return? How do you use it? The manual is no help really, it actually is more confusing.

Let me explain.

One would think it would work like this

var = GetButtonState() // this should be the combined value of all buttons??

IF var == 5 THEN // 5 could be button 1 & 3 are down

It seems you could also do this
IF GetButtonState(1,1) THEN // this should be button 1 is down, and return should be true

I don't really see explained anywhere these constants Button and ButtonMask. What are thier values? Where can you use them?

So you have these common statments.
WaitForButton(Button,ButtonMask)
this one, I assume is waiting for Button which is what the IDI config set for this button? And button mask is the pressed state?

But then this is thrown in.
((GetButtonState & ButtonMask) == Button)
You are using GetButtonState without the braces (). This is not declared as legal anywhere. And what is ButtonMask? Is it a function ever, like ButtonMask()? and the == Button ?? What is Button? Where does it derive it's value?

So I was trying something that should be simple. If button 1 is pressed, wait for 500ms, and if within that time button 2 is pressed, send XYZ, else if 500ms goes by send ABC. Simple enough.

Looking at the .pdf, it would seem that since I am using a shift, that the following are the button values and mask values

button 1 value 1, mask of 'pressed' 1 (these are not hex, is it restricted to hex?)
button 2 value 2, mask of 'pressed' 2
button 5 value 16, mask of 'pressed' 16 (this is the shift button)

From what I am reading, the GetButtonState() should return the state of all buttons pressed, and not buttons not pressed. So the total would be 19 for button and 19 for mask which should be 38. If the docs are correct, then GetButtonState() should return 38. Or, would it be that GetButtonState(19,19) should = TRUE if buttons 1,2 & 5 are pressed.

That did not work. I then tried IF ((GetButtonState & ButtonMask) == 38) THEN, but that did not work either.

So, how about some more advanced scripts utilizing these functions and values in ways that show thier use, with comments that explicitly describe what is happening.

I should state that I have an early excel spreadsheet with stuff in it that might not be in the .pdf, I have not checked.

Thanks for the progress so far. Looking better than it was for sure.

MrWoo]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=40 Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:49:16 -0800 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=40
Is there somethiing that I'm missing? Happy to hear your thoughts on the matter...]]>
Is there somethiing that I'm missing? Happy to hear your thoughts on the matter...]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=39 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:05:11 -0800 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=39 What gets me is that it said my current version was 104b9 and so was the most recent version, but the recent version had a different release date on it.
Is it true that 104b9 is the latest version, or do I still need to upgrade?]]> What gets me is that it said my current version was 104b9 and so was the most recent version, but the recent version had a different release date on it.
Is it true that 104b9 is the latest version, or do I still need to upgrade?]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=38 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:35:28 -0800 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=38
Everything in red is the code for mouse sensitivity
Everything in blue is the code for the toggle
And the rest is standard

//Creaded By Kimo

THREAD Profile
VAR Count
Count = 0
//0 is odd press
//1 is even press
Start:

WaitForButton(Button, ButtonMask)
IF Count == 0 THEN
ChangeMouseSensitivity(1500,1500)
Count = 1
GOTO Start
ELSEIF Count == 1 THEN
ChangeMouseSensitivity(800,800)
Count = 0
GOTO Start
FI
END]]>
Everything in red is the code for mouse sensitivity
Everything in blue is the code for the toggle
And the rest is standard

//Creaded By Kimo

THREAD Profile
VAR Count
Count = 0
//0 is odd press
//1 is even press
Start:

WaitForButton(Button, ButtonMask)
IF Count == 0 THEN
ChangeMouseSensitivity(1500,1500)
Count = 1
GOTO Start
ELSEIF Count == 1 THEN
ChangeMouseSensitivity(800,800)
Count = 0
GOTO Start
FI
END]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=37 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:48:42 -0800 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=37
The new edition includes ESSENTIAL bug fixes, DEVICE SWITCHING and more. Also it is packaged with the most recent IDI Content Pack and help documentation, along with a host of background image files!

get it at: http://www.idimama.com/file.php?id=134

IDImama is constantly brainstorming and acquiring new functions, fixes and documentation for IDI Devices so be sure to check back often!]]>
The new edition includes ESSENTIAL bug fixes, DEVICE SWITCHING and more. Also it is packaged with the most recent IDI Content Pack and help documentation, along with a host of background image files!

get it at: http://www.idimama.com/file.php?id=134

IDImama is constantly brainstorming and acquiring new functions, fixes and documentation for IDI Devices so be sure to check back often!]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=36 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:13:34 -0800 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=36
http://idimama.com/file.php?id=118

The KeyPress function has 3 arguments.
KeyPress(modifier, 'char', duration)

The Modifier arguments is a key like ctrl, shift, alt, windows key, etc These are represented in hex and must always start with 0x. For a complete list see the Ref guide. In our case we are using left CTRL which is represented as 0x01.

The char argument is for letters and numbers. Since all we want to do is use the modifier key we are going to use 0 without quotes.

The duration argument is for how long you would like the key to be held down. The duration is in milliseconds. The higher the number the longer the press.

So here is what our Function is going to look like.

KeyPress(0x01, 0, 20)

This will press the left CTRL key one time. To do it twice we just need to write it twice.

Here is the complete code to add to a button. When the button is used it will press left CTRL twice. You can also just download the macro file.

//Created By Kimo

THREAD Profile

Start:

WaitForButton(Button, ButtonMask)

KeyPress(0x01, 0, 20)
KeyPress(0x01, 0, 20)

GOTO Start
END]]>
http://idimama.com/file.php?id=118

The KeyPress function has 3 arguments.
KeyPress(modifier, 'char', duration)

The Modifier arguments is a key like ctrl, shift, alt, windows key, etc These are represented in hex and must always start with 0x. For a complete list see the Ref guide. In our case we are using left CTRL which is represented as 0x01.

The char argument is for letters and numbers. Since all we want to do is use the modifier key we are going to use 0 without quotes.

The duration argument is for how long you would like the key to be held down. The duration is in milliseconds. The higher the number the longer the press.

So here is what our Function is going to look like.

KeyPress(0x01, 0, 20)

This will press the left CTRL key one time. To do it twice we just need to write it twice.

Here is the complete code to add to a button. When the button is used it will press left CTRL twice. You can also just download the macro file.

//Created By Kimo

THREAD Profile

Start:

WaitForButton(Button, ButtonMask)

KeyPress(0x01, 0, 20)
KeyPress(0x01, 0, 20)

GOTO Start
END]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=35 Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:14:32 -0800 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=35
to be more precise, I need my button 1 to continuously press 'Z' key when i'm holding down the button. It shld only stop pressing the 'Z' key when i release button 1.]]>
to be more precise, I need my button 1 to continuously press 'Z' key when i'm holding down the button. It shld only stop pressing the 'Z' key when i release button 1.]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=34 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:22:06 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=34
Man, I'm so frustrated tonight. I gave up up on the side buttons (see my other posts) and decided to buy the frag pedal. This is so confusing. It doesn't seem to work half the time. First off, my buttons 3 and 4 are reversed (yes, I have everything matching the picture and the right pedal works fine). So I keep programming button 4 and nothing happens. A half hour later I realize that the wires in my left pedal must have gotten switched in assembly or something. Don't know...

So now I'm programming button 4 to be SHIFT 1, and when I click on the omni-mouse, it doesn't recognize the shift. Is the Frag Pedal not recognized by the Omni Mouse? The only reason I got the Frag Pedal is so that I could program the foot pads to be my shift key and not have to deal with buttons 5/6/7 on the omni-mouse. But for some reason, it doesn't look like they talk to each other.

Also, since I'm trying to figure all this out, I keep going back and forth between the mouse and the footpads with the IDI Device Configurator. Turns out that it can't read both at the same time so I'm swapping them out back and forth on my USB port. The weird thing is that sometimes it looks like my Frag Pedal is showing the macros assigned to the Omni Mouse. I can't figure this out at all. Yep, just tried again as I was typing this - I plug in the Omni Mouse and it shows the proper macros. THen I unplug it, plug the Frag Pedal in and it says that its macros are the same as the OmniMouse. Ugh...]]>
Man, I'm so frustrated tonight. I gave up up on the side buttons (see my other posts) and decided to buy the frag pedal. This is so confusing. It doesn't seem to work half the time. First off, my buttons 3 and 4 are reversed (yes, I have everything matching the picture and the right pedal works fine). So I keep programming button 4 and nothing happens. A half hour later I realize that the wires in my left pedal must have gotten switched in assembly or something. Don't know...

So now I'm programming button 4 to be SHIFT 1, and when I click on the omni-mouse, it doesn't recognize the shift. Is the Frag Pedal not recognized by the Omni Mouse? The only reason I got the Frag Pedal is so that I could program the foot pads to be my shift key and not have to deal with buttons 5/6/7 on the omni-mouse. But for some reason, it doesn't look like they talk to each other.

Also, since I'm trying to figure all this out, I keep going back and forth between the mouse and the footpads with the IDI Device Configurator. Turns out that it can't read both at the same time so I'm swapping them out back and forth on my USB port. The weird thing is that sometimes it looks like my Frag Pedal is showing the macros assigned to the Omni Mouse. I can't figure this out at all. Yep, just tried again as I was typing this - I plug in the Omni Mouse and it shows the proper macros. THen I unplug it, plug the Frag Pedal in and it says that its macros are the same as the OmniMouse. Ugh...]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=33 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:55:19 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=33
Thanks.]]>
Thanks.]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=32 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:58:19 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=32
So why am I here, well as the Editor-in-Chief of AbleGamers, I am always looking for technologies that help get disabled gamers back into the game, and I saw the technology that GWS is pioneering, and reached out to them to see how I could exploit their work to help disabled gamers. Now to be honest when I reached out to GWS over a year ago, I was not sure if they had really looked at the cool things they were bring to market, and seeing how they may help the disabled gamers in the world, but after a conversation with Tony, I was sure that if they were not on board when I called, they were when I hung up the phone.

Gaming for the disabled is more important than ever before, mainly for two reasons. When you get on line and play your World of Warcraft, or Battlefield 2, you are not only going out and adventuring, you are also socializing… Now for many able bodied people, this is just another way to connect with friends, but for some people with disabilities gaming may be their main form of connecting with friends. The other reason disabled gaming is important to me, is because, like it or not there are two wars going on, and for the first time in our nation’s history those men and women who are serving left as us as gamers, and for many, they are not coming home the same way they left. They want to return to the things they love, and are finding that much of the gaming market is not designed for their new reality. If the games do not let them down, the peripherals market will.

This is why AbleGamers is important to me, and this is why I am so glad to see the folks at GWS on board.

Tony and I want to use the technology that GWS has brought to market and see how we can exploit it to bring as many disabled gamers as we can back into the game.]]>
So why am I here, well as the Editor-in-Chief of AbleGamers, I am always looking for technologies that help get disabled gamers back into the game, and I saw the technology that GWS is pioneering, and reached out to them to see how I could exploit their work to help disabled gamers. Now to be honest when I reached out to GWS over a year ago, I was not sure if they had really looked at the cool things they were bring to market, and seeing how they may help the disabled gamers in the world, but after a conversation with Tony, I was sure that if they were not on board when I called, they were when I hung up the phone.

Gaming for the disabled is more important than ever before, mainly for two reasons. When you get on line and play your World of Warcraft, or Battlefield 2, you are not only going out and adventuring, you are also socializing… Now for many able bodied people, this is just another way to connect with friends, but for some people with disabilities gaming may be their main form of connecting with friends. The other reason disabled gaming is important to me, is because, like it or not there are two wars going on, and for the first time in our nation’s history those men and women who are serving left as us as gamers, and for many, they are not coming home the same way they left. They want to return to the things they love, and are finding that much of the gaming market is not designed for their new reality. If the games do not let them down, the peripherals market will.

This is why AbleGamers is important to me, and this is why I am so glad to see the folks at GWS on board.

Tony and I want to use the technology that GWS has brought to market and see how we can exploit it to bring as many disabled gamers as we can back into the game.]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=31 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:50:42 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=31 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=30 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:13:59 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=30
Thanks.]]>
Thanks.]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=29 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:47:43 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=29
I have set up a configuration for Warhammer Online and I have been busy programming my skills to the buttons.

I have lift set as shift1 and programmed buttons 1-4 as healing spells

I have Button 5 set to shift 2 with various damage spells on 1-4

I now got a few more spells, so needed to sort out shift 3.

However, when I lift the mouse and hit button 5 to set up shift 3, it fires off my 4th healing spell whih is button 4. I thought this was a bindning issue so I reboud that spell to alt-4, set that up on button4, but for some reason as soon as I lift my mouse and hit button5 it fires this spell.

Surely this shouldn;t happen?

I have got around this by keeping button4 unprogrammed for now but it is confusing the heck out of me.

I have to say I am loving the functionality of this mouse, just need to understand more.]]>
I have set up a configuration for Warhammer Online and I have been busy programming my skills to the buttons.

I have lift set as shift1 and programmed buttons 1-4 as healing spells

I have Button 5 set to shift 2 with various damage spells on 1-4

I now got a few more spells, so needed to sort out shift 3.

However, when I lift the mouse and hit button 5 to set up shift 3, it fires off my 4th healing spell whih is button 4. I thought this was a bindning issue so I reboud that spell to alt-4, set that up on button4, but for some reason as soon as I lift my mouse and hit button5 it fires this spell.

Surely this shouldn;t happen?

I have got around this by keeping button4 unprogrammed for now but it is confusing the heck out of me.

I have to say I am loving the functionality of this mouse, just need to understand more.]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=27 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:15:16 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=27
First off, it is nice to see a scripting guide. I have a spreadsheet from last year, so a pdf is great to see standardization. I might make some suggestions after a quick take on it.

Get rid of the small 'pages' and the nice picture on top. For example, in the guide the definition of Expressions contains a very small area with much gray. I for one would rather not see the pretty format and see more data with less scrolling. Especially when opening a .pdf next to notepad.

Also, and I have brought this up in conversations over the phone, what this really needs is a scripting environment, IDE type thing. Scite is a great free one, which only requires certain key files in place to become IDI supportive. At least something which gives color characteristics to each 'type' of keyword.

While pdf's are nice to maintain standardization, I really like DOM's better (Document Object Models). Many are .chm's, and many MS ones are laid out poorly, but still offer better resolution than a pdf. At the least include an index on the side to facilitate navigation.

Good work and this is a great start.

MrWoo]]>
First off, it is nice to see a scripting guide. I have a spreadsheet from last year, so a pdf is great to see standardization. I might make some suggestions after a quick take on it.

Get rid of the small 'pages' and the nice picture on top. For example, in the guide the definition of Expressions contains a very small area with much gray. I for one would rather not see the pretty format and see more data with less scrolling. Especially when opening a .pdf next to notepad.

Also, and I have brought this up in conversations over the phone, what this really needs is a scripting environment, IDE type thing. Scite is a great free one, which only requires certain key files in place to become IDI supportive. At least something which gives color characteristics to each 'type' of keyword.

While pdf's are nice to maintain standardization, I really like DOM's better (Document Object Models). Many are .chm's, and many MS ones are laid out poorly, but still offer better resolution than a pdf. At the least include an index on the side to facilitate navigation.

Good work and this is a great start.

MrWoo]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=26 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 21:00:50 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=26
I use a logitech wireless trackball for primary use. I use a MS sidewinder mouse for gaming. Both are USB. Sidewinder has the driver installed, the logitech using generic xp usb hid driver. While both mice are seen, and both can be installed, setting a simple left click to 'o' and testing in notepad reveals issues.

For starters the Sidewinder is not seen as anything but a USB Human Interface Device (Mouse), hereafter I will call it simply HID. The logitech trackball, with only xp drivers, is seen correctly.

The issue comes into play because only the logitech HID will perform the 'o' keystroke. All buttons on the sidewinder refuse to comply with the AMP. I would consider this a serious issue.

Next in line is a notation that I have not seen yet, although I have only skimmed the .pdf files. If you shut down the configurator via the tray, obviously the AMP does not work. Starting it back up reveals no AMP detected. A simple unplug and re-plug of the AMP is the fix that I found works. Is there clarification on whether this is a detrimental method?

And finally, initial tests show that via 2 different USB 2.0 hubs, the AMP has intermittent failures to write data to onboard flash. I would say 50% of the time is just a hang on progress bar. Plugging directly into back panel USB or a front case expansion plug (no hub there) seems to work 100%.

FYI.

I sincerely hope that the AMP is/will be capable of finding and using all mice, not just ones that are compliant with some scheme. And I also assume that the idea behind installing only one of your mice is to ensure that one is 'normal', while the other is 'AMPed'. I assume that the recognizing of the mouse itself comes from the device ID associated with the mouse, as in the device manager shows 'names', and many games/programs are coded to have to know the 'name' of the device to work with it. If so, you should develop a feature so that we geeks can input it directly to an .ini or something ourselves.

Granted, I will be digging deeply and may find this on my own, so this is more of a heads up to you that you may want to address in a FAQ area, which may exist I just haven't seen it yet.

MrWoo]]>
I use a logitech wireless trackball for primary use. I use a MS sidewinder mouse for gaming. Both are USB. Sidewinder has the driver installed, the logitech using generic xp usb hid driver. While both mice are seen, and both can be installed, setting a simple left click to 'o' and testing in notepad reveals issues.

For starters the Sidewinder is not seen as anything but a USB Human Interface Device (Mouse), hereafter I will call it simply HID. The logitech trackball, with only xp drivers, is seen correctly.

The issue comes into play because only the logitech HID will perform the 'o' keystroke. All buttons on the sidewinder refuse to comply with the AMP. I would consider this a serious issue.

Next in line is a notation that I have not seen yet, although I have only skimmed the .pdf files. If you shut down the configurator via the tray, obviously the AMP does not work. Starting it back up reveals no AMP detected. A simple unplug and re-plug of the AMP is the fix that I found works. Is there clarification on whether this is a detrimental method?

And finally, initial tests show that via 2 different USB 2.0 hubs, the AMP has intermittent failures to write data to onboard flash. I would say 50% of the time is just a hang on progress bar. Plugging directly into back panel USB or a front case expansion plug (no hub there) seems to work 100%.

FYI.

I sincerely hope that the AMP is/will be capable of finding and using all mice, not just ones that are compliant with some scheme. And I also assume that the idea behind installing only one of your mice is to ensure that one is 'normal', while the other is 'AMPed'. I assume that the recognizing of the mouse itself comes from the device ID associated with the mouse, as in the device manager shows 'names', and many games/programs are coded to have to know the 'name' of the device to work with it. If so, you should develop a feature so that we geeks can input it directly to an .ini or something ourselves.

Granted, I will be digging deeply and may find this on my own, so this is more of a heads up to you that you may want to address in a FAQ area, which may exist I just haven't seen it yet.

MrWoo]]> http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=25 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:50:23 -0700 http://www.IDImama.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=25
Mouse says 'installed'. Proceeded to testing.

First impression... the IDE of the configurator does a lot of wierd refreshing. Every few seconds the screen mixes the background up. I tried the toolbar background, seems simple. Same issues. Also, if you click on File drop down menu, and leave it for a few seconds, the screen mixes everything up, and the transparency of the background covers the file menu. I think it is a transparency issue. Am running XP Pro SP2 +. This is very annoying.

MrWooo]]>
Mouse says 'installed'. Proceeded to testing.

First impression... the IDE of the configurator does a lot of wierd refreshing. Every few seconds the screen mixes the background up. I tried the toolbar background, seems simple. Same issues. Also, if you click on File drop down menu, and leave it for a few seconds, the screen mixes everything up, and the transparency of the background covers the file menu. I think it is a transparency issue. Am running XP Pro SP2 +. This is very annoying.

MrWooo]]>